Mild sleep apnea? No power, no problem!

AGreyMan

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In the self-quarantine thread, the problem of no power for CPAP machines was mentioned.

I occasionally have fairly mild obstructive sleep apnea, and I thought I'd share what I had done for a no-power solution that works for me.

First, a little about sleep apnea. There are two kinds. Central sleep apnea is more rare. It's caused by the brain not triggering breathing normally while asleep.

The most common kind of sleep apnea is obstructive sleep apnea, where the unconscious (asleep) person's soft tissue is no longer supported by the throat musculature the way it is while someone is awake and vertical. Especially when the person is sleeping on their back, the relaxed tissues succumb to gravity and block the airway, like this:

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There are serious consequences to long-term sleep apnea like pulmonary hypertension and coronary artery disease, as well as psych issues that come from chronic sleep deprivation.

My "fix" won't work with central sleep apnea, and it might not work for all obstructive sleep apnea.

The no-power, low-cost treatment is heat moldable mouth-guard like this one. (The stick in the photo below is just to help you get it in position to mold it. It doesn't remain in the mouth-guard after the molding process.)

mouthguard.jpg

Remember from your first aid class, the "jaw thrust" maneuver used to open the airway in victims who have a suspected spinal injury?

Jaw thrust.jpg


We can use the heat moldable mouth-guard to do the same thing: Hold our jaw in a real jaw-forward, underbite position. Know right off that this takes a little getting used to, but I didn't find it awful.

Essentially, we heat up the mouthguard just like the directions say. But instead of biting normally to let the plastic set, thrust your jaw a little forward, then bite down to let the plastic set. Put the mouthguard in before bed, and get used to sleeping with it for a couple weeks.

Then, reheat the mouth-guard like the directions say, but this time, stick your jaw out a little farther than last time and bite. Then sleep with it in for a couple weeks.

Do this as incrementally as you'd like, until you are able to sleep comfortably with your jaw as far forward as keeps your airway open at night.


I am making no guarantees, but the few folks who have tried it have had good success, including a physician co-worker.

One note: If you decide to try this, make sure you buy a mouth-guard that has a groove for both upper and lower teeth. Some mouth-guards only fit over upper OR lower teeth, not both.

I hope this helps someone!
 
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The Branch Manager

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#2
Both of my machines have 12v adapter cords. I think most brands have a 12v option. I've got plenty of Optima batteries (20+) in trucks and equipment that will get repurposed into a storage cell and a couple simple solar panels should keep them charged. Or I could rig an alternator. That my new current plan given the time sensitive nature of this crisis. I didn't have it scheduled in until October. Nobody consulted me about the timeline change either, so I'm pretty crabby about that.
 

john 1775

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#3
In the self-quarantine thread, the problem of no power for CPAP machines was mentioned.

I occasionally have fairly mild obstructive sleep apnea, and I thought I'd share what I had done for a no-power solution that works for me.

First, a little about sleep apnea. There are two kinds. Central sleep apnea is more rare. It's caused by the brain not triggering breathing normally while asleep.

The most common kind of sleep apnea is obstructive sleep apnea, where the unconscious (asleep) person's soft tissue is no longer supported by the throat musculature the way it is while someone is awake and vertical. Especially when the person is sleeping on their back, the relaxed tissues succumb to gravity and block the airway, like this:

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There are serious consequences to long-term sleep apnea like pulmonary hypertension and coronary artery disease, as well as psych issues that come from chronic sleep deprivation.

My "fix" won't work with central sleep apnea, and it might not work for all obstructive sleep apnea.

The no-power, low-cost treatment is heat moldable mouth-guard like this one. (The stick in the photo below is just to help you get it in position to mold it. It doesn't remain in the mouth-guard after the molding process.)

View attachment 15239

Remember from your first aid class, the "jaw thrust" maneuver used to open the airway in victims who have a suspected spinal injury?

View attachment 15241


We can use the heat moldable mouth-guard to do the same thing: Hold our jaw in a real jaw-forward, underbite position. Know right off that this takes a little getting used to, but I didn't find it awful.

Essentially, we heat up the mouthguard just like the directions say. But instead of biting normally to let the plastic set, thrust your jaw a little forward, then bite down to let the plastic set. Put the mouthguard in before bed, and get used to sleeping with it for a couple weeks.

Then, reheat the mouth-guard like the directions say, but this time, stick your jaw out a little farther than last time and bite. Then sleep with it in for a couple weeks.

Do this as incrementally as you'd like, until you are able to sleep comfortably with your jaw as far forward as keeps your airway open at night.


I am making no guarantees, but the few folks who have tried it have had good success, including a physician co-worker.

One note: If you decide to try this, make sure you buy a mouth-guard that has a groove for both upper and lower teeth. Some mouth-guards only fit over upper OR lower teeth, not both.

I hope this helps someone!
make sure you buy a mouth-guard that has a groove for both upper and lower teeth. Some mouth-guards only fit over upper OR lower teeth, not both.
This one does both?
 

AGreyMan

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#4
Yes, the one I linked to does both. Here's a different photo from the same ad on Amazon that shows it a little more clearly.

Mouthguard.jpg

I keep one in my bugout bag. I figure if I am on the run, I am gonna be miserable anyway. I might as well give myself every chance to get some good sleep if I can. It's small, light and cheap.
 

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I figured the same so gave it a try. The directions said to jut your jaw forward when biting down. I did that and it was terribly uncomfortable. Maybe too much. I don't know but never tried it again.

I guess in a way it worked. I never fell asleep, so didn't snore !! lol
 

AGreyMan

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#9
My first time, I really jutted my jaw forward. The whole next day I was really a hurting unit, but it made a great diet plan!

Then I resoftened the mouthguard and went much closer to my natural bite. Then I gradually resoftened and moved my jaw forward every few weeks. I tolerated that much better!

It won’t work for folks who can’t breathe through their nose, or who can’t keep their mouth closed in their sleep, although the mouthguard conforms to the teeth so well, it’s less of a problem than I thought.
 

Josh

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#10
I’m going to have to give this a shot thanks for sharing.

I absolutely hate my CPAP and can only use it here and there because of seasonal allergies in the summer clogging my nose up, and some winter crud I always get that I suspect comes from my lungs being messed up that also clogs my nose up. The pressure on the clogged sinuses gives me headaches so bad that they keep me up more than sleep apnea does.
 

HandLoad

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I have a many times broken nose, deviated Septum..."Football, the Maker of Men!"

Simply can not live/Sleep without My TurboCharger.

Lately, though, My AutoSet is waking me up with Sahara mouth and passages, blowing as hard as it can...I might be really stopping for long time? Weird. I shut it off, wet my whistle, and restart at gentle boost.