The Ebola Thread

Widows Son

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I will write this in the "FWIW" department because I believe it will help to control the perceived panic that may arise from this issue not only here but among any of those whom you choose to trust. My guess is that if you really want to stop the lib-tards, this is a perfect weapon. The ones who might survive it will certainly have a lot more to consider than the wacko politics they spew to everyone now.

First, and most importantly, Ebola and viruses like it (Marburg, etc) are hemorrhagic fever viruses and as such are NOT, repeat NOT transmitted by respiratory droplet (such as influenza, etc. (YET!) These viruses are transmitted by contact with body fluids, most commonly blood. (yes, there are other "body fluids" as well but the point is that BLOOD is the main source.

With that having been said, it is important to realize that NONE of the "usual" methods of prevention mentioned above (respirators, etc.) will do much good to protect you. Just NOT contacting that person with the virus or their body fluids will do as much as any of the other ways you can protect yourself and family. Any BARRIER method (Tyvek suits, etc) are the most effective but poor technique with them makes them even more dangerous than the person you contact. Africans (all and any related to them) are notoriously poor when it comes to "following safety protocols, etc." They just don't have the G-2 to comprehend the danger. Why do you think that "doctors without borders" left and refuses to go back? That, (to my way of thinking) is REALLY EASY TO UNDERSTAND.

This disease is a PERFECT example of what the concept of QUARANTINE is for. In the days before we had many of the drugs and protocols to treat many of the diseases that we almost never see anymore, that was the ONLY method of protection. Anyone NEW in your environment must be kept away from ALL others until the end of the potential incubation period (and maybe even a bit longer just for safety sake) and that should simply mean they just "can't swap spit or any "OTHER BODY FLUIDS" with anyone else for the entire QUARANTINE PERIOD no matter how appealing they may be. Once that threat has passed, you are generally OK to "let them come in." While this is NOT a PERFECT system, it has been the only really successful tactic thus far.

To date, these hemorrhagic fever viruses have not become "respiratory transmitted" however, we all know that things can change and certain organisms can mutate. Back in the early 90's Stephen King wrote a book called, "The Stand" in which he based his story on the premise that one of these hemorrhagic fever viruses DID become respiratory transmitted. In THAT case, this disease would decimate the population of the world in a matter of months. ISOLATION and I mean REAL ISOLATION would be the only viable protection unless you are one of the very few who are naturally immune to such a disease. Yes, that can be the case, but there is no way to test for it. If you get exposed, almost more than 60% of the people die so quickly that there is no way to study the ones who survive. All the folks who study such things would (in all likelihood) die so quickly that they wouldn't be able to provide any meaningful data.

Bottom line, KEEP everyone you know, IN and everyone who has been anywhere OUT until they pass the maximum incubation period. While that may not be 100% successful, it is still the best option to consider.
YMMV
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Mattsn

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Send them all to sanctuary cities (especially San Francisco!) that will solve a whole lot of problems. Once inside they can NEVER LEAVE and will infect the entire city in short order and rid the country of that whole collection of vermin.
Wtf. You want to invite ebola into the country. No thanks.

And in your post above, you make it sound so easy to avoid ebola if it were to enter the country. If it were that easy I don't think these outbreaks would be so bad. In fact, these out breaks seem to get worse every time. I'm not so sure this thing isn't airborne. There was some chatter about that the last time there was a big outbreak. Some people work in very populated office buildings. It would be difficult to just avoid people.
 

Sacajawea

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Hey Matt, one of the reasons there are "outbreaks" at all, is that the people can't be stopped from eating bush meat - and ebola is ever-resident in those animals. Another big reason, is that it's part of their tradition to keep a corpse around, and personally handle it before and during burial. Ebola is most often transmitted among family members, as a result - and of course, the medical personnel treating those who seek treatment. Not all do.

WS is correct, that those bodily fluids - of all types - are how the disease is transmitted. You are also correct, that there was talk the last time, that the virus had mutated and gone airborne.
 

Mattsn

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Hey Matt, one of the reasons there are "outbreaks" at all, is that the people can't be stopped from eating bush meat - and ebola is ever-resident in those animals. Another big reason, is that it's part of their tradition to keep a corpse around, and personally handle it before and during burial. Ebola is most often transmitted among family members, as a result - and of course, the medical personnel treating those who seek treatment. Not all do.

WS is correct, that those bodily fluids - of all types - are how the disease is transmitted. You are also correct, that there was talk the last time, that the virus had mutated and gone airborne.
Yeah I understand this sac. That is no reason to feel safe to unleash it here.
 

Widows Son

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Wtf. You want to invite ebola into the country. No thanks.

And in your post above, you make it sound so easy to avoid ebola if it were to enter the country. If it were that easy I don't think these outbreaks would be so bad. In fact, these out breaks seem to get worse every time. I'm not so sure this thing isn't airborne. There was some chatter about that the last time there was a big outbreak. Some people work in very populated office buildings. It would be difficult to just avoid people.
No I don't want to invite it here. It is coming here on its own! It is coming across the border in people who are bringing it here possibly unknowingly. If you send all these "refugees" to sanctuary cities and quarantine the cities,they'll get in,but not get out.
Once the incubation period is over, death occurs in a VERY SHORT TIME. The variability of the incubation period is the issue. All "newcomers " must be quarantined until after the incubation period is completed.

What you may not understand is that it is being SENT here. There are some who have been exposed and not know it. They are coming from places where it is believed by the enemy that they will be allowed to go wherever they want. THAT has to be stopped. If they only go to "sanctuary" cities, and quarantined, then the spread will be controlled and they will quickly reduce the population that "INTERACTS" with them on a "social scale" IYKWIM.

We are NOT going to be able to stop it because we don't know who has it until it is too late. The only option is quarantine until they "declare" themselves. Sacajawea explained much of the reason for the spread in places like Africa but that is NOT what we are dealing with here. This is BIOLOGICAL WARFARE...PLAIN AND SIMPLE. You will start to see it spread through populations that "interact" with these "newcomers" but then you will also be able to trace the path of spread. Like I said, they will die in just a few days after they become symptomatic. It is NOT a long lasting disease. It will quickly overwhelm the medical care system but as long as it can be "contained" it will be easier to stop it.

AFAIK, it has NOT become respiratory transmitted, regardless of the "CHATTER". If that were to happen, the population of the entire world would be decimated in a matter of weeks. It would become obvious. Even the MSM will become decimated by it. They will fill the airwaves with the information. People will quickly start shooting anyone who comes around their location that they "don't know." If you want to know what a REAL SHTF scenario would be like, THAT is a perfect example. That is why I am saying that they ALL have to go to a specific location so that if things become obvious, the control measures need to be immediately enacted to prevent them from getting out of those places. No it isn't pretty, but it is real and CAN happen.

The ones who survive that may still be carriers but will be immune to the disease. They are the ones who will "RE-populate" the area but even that will take a long time. Any victim who dies must be immediately cremated. That will be a serious challenge because there will be SO MANY OF THEM. The uninflected will have to "shelter in place" and then (in order to be allowed to leave) they will have to be in an "intermediate quarantine" until they are shown to NOT have any sign of being a "carrier" of the disease.

The rats and other vermin who will feed on them (because no one will want to handle the bodies) will do more to spread this than any other manner. I agree that food workers are at risk, but then we have been talking about having enough food ALREADY IN PLACE so that we are NOT exposed to them as well. YES, this is a MAJOR deal but the way to handle it is quite different than what you might imagine.

I realize that epidemiology and immunology are NOT typical subjects discussed on forums such as this, but with just a fair amount of discussion, it can help to dispel any panic. There is NO effective treatment for this disease. Death is the only result and it only takes a very short time to occur.

So, NOW I ask you, would you rather allow all these "Migrants" to go wherever they want or would you prefer to see them all go to ONE PLACE in order to segregate all the infected cases? YOU BE THE JUDGE!
 

Sacajawea

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Quarantine..............
once upon a time, it was SOP coming into the country, at official ports of entry. Ellis Island, ya know? San Francisco. Not THAT long ago, either. It is a simple and more importantly, effective method of insuring public health. (IMO, the CDC's priority listing for "public health" is way down the list as they've become just another political tool in prog-socialist arsenal. Gun control?? Really?? Why don't they focus on the psychotropic drug abuse?)

LA has been fighting typhus; TB that is resistant to antibiotic treatment is already here; much of this to-do over measles is because of mingling populations of children in schools and public places.

There are ways for people to safely migrate & assimilate to different countries that are safe for everyone involved. Remember - they quarantine pets that you're taking to another country, why not people also? Generally, 2 weeks will cover the incubation periods of most of the worst diseases.

So, one really needs to take a hard look and think about WHY and WHO is screaming the loudest to let all these people just walk across the border to the south. And why, their hypocrisy is scathingly revealed by their outrage & fear at Trump's suggestion they'll all be delivered to the Sanctuary cities and states.
 

Mattsn

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So, NOW I ask you, would you rather allow all these "Migrants" to go wherever they want or would you prefer to see them all go to ONE PLACE in order to segregate all the infected cases? YOU BE THE JUDGE!
I don't want it here at all. And thanks for clarification because I had the impression on your above post that you were suggesting it to Be allowed in.