Luggable power for ham radios (or almost anything else)

AGreyMan

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There was discussion in the Hurricane Flo thread about powering radios. I thought I'd show how I did it when I was portable. So, not exactly easy to move around, but "luggable."

First is the battery itself. Inside the box is a deep cycle "gel cell" battery. I chose this type -even though it's more expensive- for two reasons. 1) They don't offgas hydrogen when charging and 2) they are not position-sensitive. You could mount them upside down, and it wouldn't be affected. The case has a "cigarette lighter" socket, a couple Andersen Powerpole pigtails and a 175 watt inverter secured to the top. the little box with the LEDs is a battery state-of-charge indicator. Still working on a better way to secure it to the luggage dolly. Kinda low priority right now, though.

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Next comes some of my solar panels. I bought two 25W panels and joined them physically (hinges, handles, and latches) and electrically. I mounted a Morningstar "Sunsaver 10" charge controller right to the panels, so I can hook up to any 12V battery and charge it. You can also see the two grey fiberglass rods that I use to put the panel in the correct angle to the sun.

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I initially had concern for the fragility of the panels, but they have been pretty tough, falling out of the back of my truck (when parked) on at least two occasions and coming through just fine.

Here is the setup "in action:"

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Finally, I built another box with a few more conveniences, but with a smaller, Absorbed Glass Matt battery which is sort of between the Gel Cell and traditional flooded cell battery in terms of position sensitivity, offgassing, etc. I put A Powerpole receptacle in it (way more expensive than making a couple pigtails, though), some USB charging ports, a small voltmeter instead of the little state-of-charge box, the obligatory cigarette lighter socket, and no inverter.

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It's worked pretty well. I have had lots of people use it. One guy at a campout brought his CPAP machine but the site had no power. He used it (the one with the inverter) and it worked really well for him, too.


The ham shack in my home is powered by 4 golf cart batteries. If you look at the photo I posted of my shack, you can see them in the bottom right corner. I have a battery charger set on a time to top them off in the early hours of the morning when I am not likely to be operating. I have not has any sort of difficulty with the offgassing, I suspect because I usually only charge with a 1.5 amp trickle charger.

That's my setup. Hopefully somebody found it useful.
 

Grevlin

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AGreyMan

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I think if you are going to run low power, or just receive, that battery would be just fine.

A possible concern with batteries that small is that when you put a load on them (100W / 12V = 8.3A) the voltage drops, and your radio transmit cuts out.

I keep a 35AH gel cell in my go box, and even then try to use minimum power to get the job done. This frankly is where a mode like Olivia really shines. Most of the time 10 watts does just fine, and I have never used more than 30 watts.
 

HandLoad

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I have a 100-Watt, duo-fold "Suaoki" brand (chinese) Solar panel set, that is in a sort of Black Ballistic Nylon "artist portfolio" form factor. Complete with handles. Feeds a Suaoki 440 watt-hour LiPo Battery, charge status meter/display that has a small inverter, a standard Cigar lighter outlet socket, Two 3-Amp DC Outlets, and Four USB outlets as well, all incorporated into a small plastic shell (of dubious tougness), with integral handle. "Bedroom Approved", by She Who Must Be Obeyed. Useful most often for CPAP @ Power Outage, so Generator need not run till Morning.

Very much less capable than AGM's set-up, and quite a bit lighter, I'll wager. Probably Twice or Four times more expensive, than His, too. IIRC, pushing $400, all up. Mine gathers Four times more SunPower/unit time, though.

Have a Ten-watt foldable (with Ballistic Nylon integral case) Solar panel, meant to tie (with multiple attach loops) to a backpack (or other) for powering/recharging a handy. Has an integral charge controller for 12VDC, and a USB port. Also useful spread on the roof or dash of a UTV, Auto, etc., to keep battery topped off. Goal Zero = Rediculously Expensive.

Pics forthcoming, maybe after coffee! 15365929770423867913391597290927.jpg
 
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AGreyMan

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That's a sharp looking setup. Being LiPo I bet it's fairly light, too. 440 Watt-hours is nothing to sneeze at. If my calculations are correct, the battery I use (the bigger of the two) is 1,260 Watt hours, but with a heavy weight penalty.
 

Optimist

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Large deep-cycle truck batteries. I'm converting one of my sewing machines to 12 volt, and ditto for the little benchtop metal lathe. Will need the juice for those apps. Of course, the base station will be in there somewhere, along with the 'puter. I'm already up to two units. Runs the lights and 'puter right nice.
 
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HandLoad

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Thanks, AGM. Yeah, LiPo is Energy Dense, without much of a weight penalty. Wife and Daughter have schlepped it around for camping duty, etc. Unit incorporates a Low Voltage Cut-Out circuit to "protect the Battery pack.
 
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AGreyMan

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Grev's Alinco says max current draw on receive is 1.1A. My supposition is that is with the speaker at full blast. Volume down or better yet, headphones will decrease that probably by 25%.

Max draw on transmitting is 20A. Theoretically, my deep cycle battery would last 270 minutes at 20A, but the reality is much less, due to the aforementioned voltage drop. Sorry Grev, but you could probably only key down at 100W for 100 minutes, give or take!
 

Grevlin

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Grev's Alinco says max current draw on receive is 1.1A. My supposition is that is with the speaker at full blast. Volume down or better yet, headphones will decrease that probably by 25%.

Max draw on transmitting is 20A. Theoretically, my deep cycle battery would last 270 minutes at 20A, but the reality is much less, due to the aforementioned voltage drop. Sorry Grev, but you could probably only key down at 100W for 100 minutes, give or take!
I plan on using headphones most of the time. Maybe a set with a mic boom...and a foot switch. I like to keep trigger fingers clear to use the keyboard. :cool: I'm working the HAM rig into my home office desk arrangement. I spend the most time (here.) Sometimes thats good...sometimes that's bad. :ROFLMAO: :cry:
 

Grevlin

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Oh God . . . Handload, I fear we've created a contester!
:LOL:

I'm not that competitive in those sorts of competitions.

I believe I'm gonna be more of a listener than a talker. Just a feeling. But...who knows! I do like to use headphones. I have some AKG 702's (from when they still made them in Austria) And an Aune DAC/Amp. Sounds great.