Hunting '24/'25

[Mattsn]

DO straight wall pistol cartridges in a rifle have to meet a min./max. length you must fall within TO USE?
444 MARLIN would work also.

ya'll got some FUBAR requirements there.that just on state property?

Yes there is a minimum pistol requirement. Can't remember what it is. However they generally not gonna have the range I want. In maryland, the law depends on the county. It's like this in many states.

 

[GOBLIN X]

Yes there is a minimum pistol requirement. Can't remember what it is. However they generally not gonna have the range I want. In maryland, the law depends on the county. It's like this in many states.

not in SC or WV. and not on private land.francis Marion state park got so fucked up on bow and blackpowder that i quit huntin on it. and so many city people there during rifle i didnt wanna get shot. drive across the tailrace canal and hunt with anything i wanted on private land.2 rules. close gates behind you and dont shoot his damn cows

 

[Mattsn]

not in SC or WV. and not on private land.francis Marion state park got so fucked up on bow and blackpowder that i quit huntin on it. and so many city people there during rifle i didnt wanna get shot. drive across the tailrace canal and hunt with anything i wanted on private land.2 rules. close gates behind you and dont shoot his damn cows

I do hunt private property. But that don't change anything. It's based on population of each county.

 

[GOBLIN X]

I do hunt private property. But that don't change anything. It's based on population of each county.

so they still control the kings deer on land they dont own. sad state of affairs,but here a 2 pistol cal cartridges that are in a lever action. both straight wall they have 500 Linebaugh
as well.prices are painful to look at


https://www.bighornarmory.com/product/model-89b-475-linebaugh-m89b18o-21/
https://www.ammunitiontogo.com/pistol-ammo-475-linebaugh

https://www.bighornarmory.com/product/model-89-carbine-18-500-sw/

https://underwoodammo.com/500-s-w-m...e-black-cherry-coated-hard-cast-hunting-ammo/

 

[Mattsn]

so they still control the kings deer on land they dont own. sad state of affairs,but here a 2 pistol cal cartridges that are in a lever action. both straight wall they have 500 Linebaugh
as well.prices are painful to look at


https://www.bighornarmory.com/product/model-89b-475-linebaugh-m89b18o-21/
https://www.ammunitiontogo.com/pistol-ammo-475-linebaugh

https://www.bighornarmory.com/product/model-89-carbine-18-500-sw/

https://underwoodammo.com/500-s-w-m...e-black-cherry-coated-hard-cast-hunting-ammo/

They ain't controlling rh deer. They think they're controlling the bullet lol

 

[steadfast]

Many straight wall states have limitations on the cartridge. Some have a caliber minimum, caliber maximum, and/or case length at 1.8".

Illinois rifle and handgun cartridges are the same rules: bottlenecked cartridges up to 1.4" long and 30 caliber minimum (300 blk is legal), or ANY straight wall cartridge and any cartridge must have factory published ballistics exceeding 500 lbs muzzle energy.

So I can use down to a 30 Carbine up to a 600 NE if I wanted.

 

[steadfast]

While we're discussing deer guns and boolits, I'm gonna change up my 45/70 ammo. I was scrunched for time and availability last year, and all I could find was Hornady and Barnes solids. They're ok I guess considering I didn't shoot nothing with them, but lead core bullets look a lot better on paper. Underwood loads the 300gr Hornady Interlock at 2350fps which leaves nothing on the table for a whitetail round. Hopefully 100 of those will get me through until I get my loading room built in the shed...this fall/winter hopefully.

 

[steadfast]

15 days later than the first pic I posted. Y'all think he'll be a shooter?

 

[steadfast]

Cuz's cam from this AM.

 

[O:gweh]

15 days later than the first pic I posted. Y'all think he'll be a shooter?

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In NY, he'd be a shooter at half that size ! lol

Those are some thick bases.

 

[HandLoad]

mmmmm - Backstrap!

 

[harbinger]

15 days later than the first pic I posted. Y'all think he'll be a shooter?

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Freezer grade.

 

[GOBLIN X]

While we're discussing deer guns and boolits, I'm gonna change up my 45/70 ammo. I was scrunched for time and availability last year, and all I could find was Hornady and Barnes solids. They're ok I guess considering I didn't shoot nothing with them, but lead core bullets look a lot better on paper. Underwood loads the 300gr Hornady Interlock at 2350fps which leaves nothing on the table for a whitetail round. Hopefully 100 of those will get me through until I get my loading room built in the shed...this fall/winter hopefully.

what energy and velocity you looking for?

 

[GOBLIN X]

all the magnum means on this box is FOR FUCKS SAKE DONT TRY TO SHOOT IT OUT A TRAPDOOR SPRINGFIELD.

“DANGEROUS GAME” 45-70 MAGNUM - Mono-Metal
380 gr. Mono-Metal WFN @ 2,075 fps / 3,632 ft-lbs
20 Round Box

https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=546

 

[steadfast]

what energy and velocity you looking for?

Ummm...not really looking at any level in particular. It's all excess in 45/70 for deer. I've shot lots of deer with 45 cal/250 gr bullets @ 1800-1900 fps in 20 ga and ML. They smash deer. I mostly want a reliable expanding bullet that shoots as flat as I can get to take advantage of using a rifle. The Underwood 300 gr Interlock @ 2350 shoots flatter than that 250 gr monoflex Hornady @ 2050 fps. I don't remember if I posted last season but I whiffed on a doe during late winter season. I aimed for a spine shot, and that was WRONG with a 175 yard zero. Clipped some hair off her back, didn't even cut her hide. So I'm going with a conventional bullet, as much velocity as is reasonable for my set up, and zeroing like I know I should have to start with. That Underwood load is good to 120 yds with NO hold off. Thats maximum point blank range based on a 1" target.

 

[GOBLIN X]

underwood is always good they got a defender style round thats excellent as well,as well as winchester
ballistic silvertip 300 gr Nosler Ballistic tips, has a lead alloy core. Remington I like the 405 gr corelokt psp, and the Remington HP 300gr SJHP,and last but not least Hornady LEVERevolution WITH 325 gr FTX ive used all those before or the bullet ,in my own reloads. but those 4 if i run short i will not hesitate to buy a box to run till i catch up.they will all put meat on the table at the ranges you speak of. I did list 1 405 grain Remington round,and im not a big 400 gr and up fan, but that one and the subsonic 410 gr PT Hornady are outstanding add to that fact you can reload that case up to 7 times before yo need to be concerned about it,.and you can fit that suppressor you have been dreaming about.... to harvest them dusky deer.........

 

[harbinger]

For the hunters that can use a "necked" cartridge...
.950 JDJ - Firearm Wiki: The Internet Gun Encyclopedia

 

[Mattsn]

I've used many Bullet brands but never the underwood. Do they shoot consistant? That's what I look for. I tend to worry more about shot placement than how much something does or doesn't expand. You put it in the heart they're gonna go down real fast. I'll have to buy a box and test em out

 

[steadfast]

I've used many Bullet brands but never the underwood. Do they shoot consistant? That's what I look for. I tend to worry more about shot placement than how much something does or doesn't expand. You put it in the heart they're gonna go down real fast. I'll have to buy a box and test em out

Underwood is a semi-custom loader like Buffalo Bore. They are well known for their quality. I'm banking on my gun likes the Hornady bullet.

 

[HandLoad]

Hornady, to Me, is Like Michelin is to Tires - The Best Commonly Available/Freshest Results of Research. I have personally Never had a Failure to perform from Hornady. I can't say that about any other.

Yeah, there are better Niche/Uncommon Mfgr's that Might have a Few "Outperformers", but Nobody (IMNSHO) has a Whole Line of "Better" performers across their Whole Line.