** Covid-19 Global Pandemic of 2020 ** - Main Discussion Thread

Entropyfx

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The other thing I'll mention is there are plenty of docs that will give a patient whatever the hell they ask for. I've seen plenty of ivermectin and hcq thrown around locally. Seen both still end up pretty damn sick. Again, that's anecdote, not evidence. But for what it's worth, haven't been impressed with the ones I have seen. And part of that problem is it is so incredibly variable on who actually gets sick sick with this virus, it's hard to male heads or tails of those effects.
 

Entropyfx

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Because if they prescribe it for covid, they lose the emergency authorization because there is an available therapeutic. Not the doctors fault, it's our dishonest FDA, fauci and gates.
Also, I don't know of any hospitals that wouldn't love to get back to normal, or health systems. The amount of money they have lost from halting elective procedures is staggering. CDV probably likes their power trip, but I don't know of any major or small health system that hasn't had to make cuts and tighten belts. The majority of revenue is generated through total joints, scopes, elective care. Most ERs are a money drain, and medical floors and ICUs maybe break even. Same with clinics. The surgeons drive the system.
 

Donfini2

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Even reporters are having trouble carrying the water for the panic narrative

There is no fourth wave, folks. Oh yeah, Fauci even said so. We have to stop listening to these people whose inability to come to a conclusion about anything…is doing more harm than good. It’s been like this for quite some time.

I’m still waiting for the “impending doom” the CDC warned about.”

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattv...67a1fe1bd5b34652e08c739263c669&recip=28553828
 

240Geezer

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Still don’t know anyone personally that has died from it. Or even contracted it.
2 techs at work tested positive last week and were sent home for 10 days. I’ll check in with them on Monday and see if they’re “symptomatic” yet.

Edit:
So naturally I entered their space and touched every surface ..... cause I could use ten days off too😁
 

The Branch Manager

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The other thing I'll mention is there are plenty of docs that will give a patient whatever the hell they ask for. I've seen plenty of ivermectin and hcq thrown around locally. Seen both still end up pretty damn sick. Again, that's anecdote, not evidence. But for what it's worth, haven't been impressed with the ones I have seen. And part of that problem is it is so incredibly variable on who actually gets sick sick with this virus, it's hard to male heads or tails of those effects.
Again, we're seeing the problem in the same light, just different sides of the looking glass. Apply all those things to the "vaxx", and they are correct also. I respect your belief in your system, but I feel 100% opposite. This entire "pandemic" (I'm still saying endemic) is shrouded in confusion, IMO on purpose. Operation chaos being used on the world. It's likely we've all been brainwashed by the local system around us. Be that IRL or virtual chat rooms and education. And the sheer numbers of people just going along with the scheme because uncle Sam says so hasn't ever worked out well in the past. There's a reason we've been working on mnra gene therapy vaccines for several decades for the common cold and flu with no luck, but all of the sudden there is a vaccine within a year? That screams dishonesty and raises eyebrows about how it could be done at warp speed. Makes me think the vaccine was the reason for the pandemic. As in, it was already available and they just needed an epidemic to occur to milk the globe out of trillions.
 

240Geezer

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Again, we're seeing the problem in the same light, just different sides of the looking glass. Apply all those things to the "vaxx", and they are correct also. I respect your belief in your system, but I feel 100% opposite. This entire "pandemic" (I'm still saying endemic) is shrouded in confusion, IMO on purpose. Operation chaos being used on the world. It's likely we've all been brainwashed by the local system around us. Be that IRL or virtual chat rooms and education. And the sheer numbers of people just going along with the scheme because uncle Sam says so hasn't ever worked out well in the past. There's a reason we've been working on mnra gene therapy vaccines for several decades for the common cold and flu with no luck, but all of the sudden there is a vaccine within a year? That screams dishonesty and raises eyebrows about how it could be done at warp speed. Makes me think the vaccine was the reason for the pandemic. As in, it was already available and they just needed an epidemic to occur to milk the globe out of trillions.
I’ll have to respectfully disagree on your vaccine take. We had the ability to do it but not the actual vaccine. Vaccines are targeted and they need to pick a target for a specific vaccine.
No cold vaccine because there’s no shotgun vaccine to cover the myriad variants. Yet anyway.
That TPTB have used the plandemic to political advantage with no repercussion is beyond the pale.
Nursing home and Veterans home deaths tragic and avoidable.
At this pace and method herd immunity will never happen and that is the plan IMHO.
 

Inazone

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After over a year of this, are there any developed countries whose COVID response hasn't been heavily politicized? I mean, you can't use someplace like China or North Korea as an example, due to how criticism of the regime is dealt with, and we see how things have gone in the US, undoubtedly magnified because COVID hit just in time for political campaigning season. Russia was loathe to admit even a single case. I've seen Sweden cited as having both excellent and awful policies, depending on when and where I saw it. Italy . . . yikes.

I'm reluctant to call COVID a deliberate attempt to cost Trump reelection, mainly because it has spread across the entire planet with varying levels of severity and with wide-ranging degrees of success in mitigating the effects. However, the onslaught of "woke" progressivism has been ratcheted up several notches, and I can't figure out if that's simply because of a very vocal anti-Trump crowd, if people like the government being embedded in every aspect of their lives, or some other factor(s) I haven't been able to identify.
 

The Branch Manager

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We had the ability to do it but not the actual vaccine.
Let's unpack that. This style treatment is gene modification that should self replicate in the body. They've been trying for decades to make one for the common flu. To many mutations among other factors. But now the exact same tech that's been unsuccessful for 20+ years has created a "vaccine" for another coronavirus in under a year? Something stinks, and it's not the shit house mouse door.

ETA- being respectful is not a prerequisite to debate with me. I can take a GFY and still invite you for dinner.
 

The Branch Manager

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"After all, we’ve been told in no uncertain terms that it would be impossible for the mRNA in a vaccine to become integrated into our DNA, simply because “RNA doesn’t work that way.” Well, this current research which was released not too long after my original article demonstrates that yes, indeed, “RNA does work that way”. In my original article, I spelled out this exact molecular pathway."

https://sciencewithdrdoug.com/2021/...her-an-rna-vaccine-can-permanently-alter-dna/
 

Jayclimber

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I never had it, and have been surrounded by it. There certainly has to be a component of natural immunity.
This^^^

I think the natural immunity aspect is more prevalent then is being reported and not to mention the herd immunity that exists in larger numbers than what is reported.

Had covid in our house at the beginning (wife) and my boss at work came in with it for a week straight until getting so sick that he finally stayed home. Our school community has had 2 confirmed cases (including kids, parents, and teachers) since the beginning of the school year and that specific group is pretty outgoing so I'm a firm believer in the natural and herd immunity being much higher.
 

240Geezer

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Let's unpack that. This style treatment is gene modification that should self replicate in the body. They've been trying for decades to make one for the common flu. To many mutations among other factors. But now the exact same tech that's been unsuccessful for 20+ years has created a "vaccine" for another coronavirus in under a year? Something stinks, and it's not the shit house mouse door.

ETA- being respectful is not a prerequisite to debate with me. I can take a GFY and still invite you for dinner.
GFY!
What's for dinner?
Vaccine wise. You don't want it then don't take it. My wife felt obliged. Me not so much.
I'm not really on board with the politics and process as opposed to the injection.
Vaccines are not perfect. Just like life.
 

240Geezer

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I think some past vaccine recipients might disagree. If they were still alive. It's been done before. Always a balancing act.
Medicine isn't an exact science.
I once reassured a coworker that his wife would be fine with bypass surgery. It was a widely accepted procedure. And my father had just had his second triple bypass done.
You know where this is going right?
His wife died on the table.
He was crushed. Married forty years. Love of his life.
I feel like shit to this day everytime I think about it.
 

steadfast

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I've seen plenty of folks who had it. Some was sick for a few days, some almost 6 weeks, and a few died. And now I see a few folks with post Covid syndrome and that's a real thing too.

I am not taking the vax 1) because I'm low risk 2) because I don't think it's right to absolve the manufacturers of liability 3) I'm a man who believes that until my God is done with me there is nothing that can take me, and when He is there is nothing that can save me. I sleep very well at night knowing I don't know the answers but as long as I make my choices remembering to love my God and neighbor, I've done the right thing.

There are no other correct answers.
 

GOBLIN X

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I think some past vaccine recipients might disagree. If they were still alive. It's been done before. Always a balancing act.
Medicine isn't an exact science.
I once reassured a coworker that his wife would be fine with bypass surgery. It was a widely accepted procedure. And my father had just had his second triple bypass done.
You know where this is going right?
His wife died on the table.
He was crushed. Married forty years. Love of his life.
I feel like shit to this day everytime I think about it.
if its your time. all the doc's in the world cant save you. if its not no matter how you suffer you wont go. Death comes knocking when its your time. all you can do is make sure when your times come you do it well..............................
 

240Geezer

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I've seen plenty of folks who had it. Some was sick for a few days, some almost 6 weeks, and a few died. And now I see a few folks with post Covid syndrome and that's a real thing too.

I am not taking the vax 1) because I'm low risk 2) because I don't think it's right to absolve the manufacturers of liability 3) I'm a man who believes that until my God is done with me there is nothing that can take me, and when He is there is nothing that can save me. I sleep very well at night knowing I don't know the answers but as long as I make my choices remembering to love my God and neighbor, I've done the right thing.

There are no other correct answers.
Exactly
 

The Branch Manager

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10 feet tall and bulletproof, until He calls me home.

I "think" they're talking about MMS (chlorine dioxide), but I'm not certain. Bought a gallon back at the beginning, haven't opened it yet because I find a large range on human dosing and it seems toxic. Unlike horse paste which is perfectly safe. Except for the constant urge to whinney and cravings for oats.

https://www.stopworldcontrol.com/cds